Comments on: The 4E Malaise http://rpgdigest.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/ Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:30:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: WW2 http://rpgdigest.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/comment-page-1/#comment-478 WW2 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:17:51 +0000 http://www.dndreviews.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/#comment-478 I've been playing DnD since the 3 little brown books, through second edition, 3.0, 3.5, and now 4.0. With each version I was always quite pleased with the improvements that were made. The 3.5 rules were my favorites. I was initially excited about 4.0 because their were still a few kinks in the 3.5 rules which still didn't work quite right and I had hoped they might work on those. Instead WoTC did a complete retread instead of building on and tuning a working, successful system. I was totally disappointed when I opened the 4E books. We tried them and as a group found them very disappointing. Its almost a different game. We have gone back to 3.5 and will not purchase any more 4E books. Hopefully we'll be able to keep up our enthusiasm for the game without any fresh blood. I’ve been playing DnD since the 3 little brown books, through second edition, 3.0, 3.5, and now 4.0. With each version I was always quite pleased with the improvements that were made. The 3.5 rules were my favorites. I was initially excited about 4.0 because their were still a few kinks in the 3.5 rules which still didn’t work quite right and I had hoped they might work on those. Instead WoTC did a complete retread instead of building on and tuning a working, successful system. I was totally disappointed when I opened the 4E books. We tried them and as a group found them very disappointing. Its almost a different game. We have gone back to 3.5 and will not purchase any more 4E books. Hopefully we’ll be able to keep up our enthusiasm for the game without any fresh blood.

]]> By: The DM http://rpgdigest.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/comment-page-1/#comment-120 The DM Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:13:33 +0000 http://www.dndreviews.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/#comment-120 @ shekaka67 - glad to hear it! Maybe I'll get a bit itchy too. @ g - Nope, wasn't you. <em>The DM's last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/DMsBlog/~3/253462558/' rel="nofollow">From 3e to 4e and Back Again or a DM’s Journey Through the 5 stages of grief</a></em> @ shekaka67 – glad to hear it! Maybe I’ll get a bit itchy too.

@ g – Nope, wasn’t you.

The DM’s last blog post..From 3e to 4e and Back Again or a DM’s Journey Through the 5 stages of grief

]]> By: g http://rpgdigest.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/comment-page-1/#comment-119 g Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:05:28 +0000 http://www.dndreviews.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/#comment-119 If you're refering to me as the "retired" player. Not quite true. The campain I was in was prematurely cut and the group moved on to another system which I had tried a couple of times with them and didn't really care for. I <3 D&D, I love medieval settings, I like d-20 systems. I suddenly found myself without a D&D game. Not being the type to dwell I found something to bid the time with. Nice little band but my dreams of being a rock star went away a long time ago. Its just a way to blow off steam and have fun, not to mention a little side money. Now that being said, I was told that the old group would be "getting the band back together" for some old school dungeon crawling adventures (tm). Unfortunatly this has been put back on the shelf until after Gencon so yet again I find myself without a game for almost 5 more months. So, retired, no... more like LFG. Apis If you’re refering to me as the “retired” player. Not quite true. The campain I was in was prematurely cut and the group moved on to another system which I had tried a couple of times with them and didn’t really care for.

I <3 D&D, I love medieval settings, I like d-20 systems. I suddenly found myself without a D&D game.

Not being the type to dwell I found something to bid the time with. Nice little band but my dreams of being a rock star went away a long time ago. Its just a way to blow off steam and have fun, not to mention a little side money.

Now that being said, I was told that the old group would be “getting the band back together” for some old school dungeon crawling adventures ™.

Unfortunatly this has been put back on the shelf until after Gencon so yet again I find myself without a game for almost 5 more months.

So, retired, no… more like LFG.

Apis

]]> By: shekaka67 http://rpgdigest.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/comment-page-1/#comment-118 shekaka67 Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:14:24 +0000 http://www.dndreviews.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/#comment-118 Yes, I have been significantly affected by the 4e malaise. I feel I am coming out of it now as I plan my next DnD campaign...I have been playing Rippers( via Savage Worlds rules for a bit) ,but am ready to start a new DnD game. Yes, I have been significantly affected by the 4e malaise. I feel I am coming out of it now as I plan my next DnD campaign…I have been playing Rippers( via Savage Worlds rules for a bit) ,but am ready to start a new DnD game.

]]> By: The DMs Blog at DnDReviews.com » Blog Archive » Will you always play DnD? http://rpgdigest.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/comment-page-1/#comment-117 The DMs Blog at DnDReviews.com » Blog Archive » Will you always play DnD? Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:36:28 +0000 http://www.dndreviews.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/#comment-117 [...] decided to retire.  He’s done, ready to move on.  He wants to do some other things, and the 4E Malaise has really gotten to him.  My suggestion was to wait until the 4E hype dies down and we all know [...] [...] decided to retire.  He’s done, ready to move on.  He wants to do some other things, and the 4E Malaise has really gotten to him.  My suggestion was to wait until the 4E hype dies down and we all know [...]

]]> By: G http://rpgdigest.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/comment-page-1/#comment-116 G Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:50:24 +0000 http://www.dndreviews.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/#comment-116 Well, you know where I stand with it DM. Honestly haven't seen anything that impresses me but holding comment till a certain someone runs a couple 1 shots like they said *hint* As far as the malaise you know that I haven't played D&D since around Nov or early Dec. Tried moving to Savage Worlds but its not my cup of tea. Joined a band to bide my time till the group(s) decide what they are going to do. While I'd like to start playing again, I'm not going to play a game I don't enjoy. Apis Well, you know where I stand with it DM. Honestly haven’t seen anything that impresses me but holding comment till a certain someone runs a couple 1 shots like they said *hint*

As far as the malaise you know that I haven’t played D&D since around Nov or early Dec. Tried moving to Savage Worlds but its not my cup of tea. Joined a band to bide my time till the group(s) decide what they are going to do.

While I’d like to start playing again, I’m not going to play a game I don’t enjoy.

Apis

]]> By: The DM http://rpgdigest.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/comment-page-1/#comment-112 The DM Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:12:48 +0000 http://www.dndreviews.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/#comment-112 @ Dave - Honestly, that's where I'm at. Brand loyalty won't save the game if it is complete crap, but I haven't seen any deal-breakers yet myself. @ The Chatty DM - I've been in my malaise since before the announcement. There were just too many supplements and rules to keep track of anymore. Maybe when I was 22 and didn't have 3 kids and a wife, but at this stage of my life it's ridiculous to try to keep up. I need a rules reset. @Tommi - That's where my group was before 3.0. In fact, we didn't realize 3.0 was out until several months after release. @Reaperbryan - I tried Savage Worlds once with Randy, and it was all right. I'm just not a big fan of skill-based systems myself. @ Trask - I can see that. The hype is, in part, what's bugging some of my guys. For me, marketing tactics have never bothered (or impressed) me. @ Dave – Honestly, that’s where I’m at. Brand loyalty won’t save the game if it is complete crap, but I haven’t seen any deal-breakers yet myself.

@ The Chatty DM – I’ve been in my malaise since before the announcement. There were just too many supplements and rules to keep track of anymore. Maybe when I was 22 and didn’t have 3 kids and a wife, but at this stage of my life it’s ridiculous to try to keep up. I need a rules reset.

@Tommi – That’s where my group was before 3.0. In fact, we didn’t realize 3.0 was out until several months after release.

@Reaperbryan – I tried Savage Worlds once with Randy, and it was all right. I’m just not a big fan of skill-based systems myself.

@ Trask – I can see that. The hype is, in part, what’s bugging some of my guys. For me, marketing tactics have never bothered (or impressed) me.

]]> By: Trask http://rpgdigest.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/comment-page-1/#comment-111 Trask Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:42:11 +0000 http://www.dndreviews.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/#comment-111 I too am suffering burnout. I feel like every post I make is adding to the WOTC hype machine. I am actually looking into Nightbane as a new/old campaign. Trask I too am suffering burnout. I feel like every post I make is adding to the WOTC hype machine. I am actually looking into Nightbane as a new/old campaign.

Trask

]]> By: Reaperbryan http://rpgdigest.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/comment-page-1/#comment-110 Reaperbryan Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:36:12 +0000 http://www.dndreviews.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/#comment-110 Our group has been exploring Savage Worlds and alternative sytems since well before the 4e announcement. We were just tired of 3.x. As it happens though, nobody in our group is excited about 4e, and I'm the only person in the group at all that plans on buying the 3 corebooks. I like what I saw in the WizardPresents books, but haven't been able to convince our group to try it. We'll probably stick with Savage Worlds or some other skill-based, instead of class-based system in the end. Our group has been exploring Savage Worlds and alternative sytems since well before the 4e announcement. We were just tired of 3.x. As it happens though, nobody in our group is excited about 4e, and I’m the only person in the group at all that plans on buying the 3 corebooks. I like what I saw in the WizardPresents books, but haven’t been able to convince our group to try it. We’ll probably stick with Savage Worlds or some other skill-based, instead of class-based system in the end.

]]> By: Tommi http://rpgdigest.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/comment-page-1/#comment-115 Tommi Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:10:56 +0000 http://www.dndreviews.com/2008/03/10/the-4e-malaise/#comment-115 Doesn't affect our groups much at all. I don't even know widely the coming of fourth edition is known (neither is the death of mister Gygax), aside from me telling them. There's not too much D&D played, so we largely go with our roleplaying as usual. Doesn’t affect our groups much at all. I don’t even know widely the coming of fourth edition is known (neither is the death of mister Gygax), aside from me telling them.

There’s not too much D&D played, so we largely go with our roleplaying as usual.

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